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David Argall

Eliminating school property taxes in Pennsylvania will require raising more than $14.4 billion from other taxes, but huge numbers have never discouraged the idea’s supporters.

If anything, they think they’re closer than ever to accomplishing what seemed impossible and ridiculous to most state legislators a decade ago.

They see a state Senate on the verge of passing a bill to eliminate school property taxes for the first time in state history and increasing pressure on the House and Gov. Tom Wolf to act.

State Sen. David Argall (R-29) fell a vote short of winning passage of his Property Tax Independence Act three Novembers ago, but aims to try again soon. Argall still needs one vote, and Republican leaders have promised him a chance to argue the point soon in a dedicated caucus meeting.

“It’s easily the number one issue in the district that I represent,” Argall said. “I can’t go to a Cub Scout meeting or get a flat tire fixed without someone asking me about this issue.”

The $14.4 billion represents all the money the state’s 500 school districts will collect in property taxes this school year, according to the state Independent Fiscal Office’s January estimate. The amount equates to almost half the current state budget, more than three times the Major League Baseball player payroll last year and about the yearly cost of treating Parkinson’s disease.

Proponents have seen their push to vanquish school property taxes steadily gain momentum since Gov. Ed Rendell and others dismissed former Rep. Sam Rohrer’s initial proposal in 2005. They say property taxes force elderly citizens on fixed incomes out of their homes, hurt businesses and are expensive to collect. They’re also tricky to calculate, since they are based on arcane factors like millage and assessed property values.

“Basically, I believe that the current system is rotten at the core,” Argall said. “Maybe property taxes made sense in the 1600s and the 1700s, but there has to be a better way to fund our public schools than how many acres do you own, when did you build your house, did you fix the hole in your roof, what kind of front door did you add? That to me is just outmoded, archaic thinking.”

Opponents say eliminating property taxes amounts to swinging an axe at a problem that requires a scalpel.

“We can focus property tax relief on the people who are feeling the brunt of it, the worst, which is fixed-income seniors because they want to stay in their home,” said state Sen. John Blake (D-22). “Do I think that there’s a broken system? Yeah. ... Do I think we can solve it? Yes, but Senate Bill 76 (Argall’s bill) is not the solution.”

Property tax reform has perplexed state leaders for at least three decades. Govs. Robert Casey and Ed Rendell, both Democrats, and Gov. Tom Ridge, a Republican, all proposed reforms that either failed or fell short of their desired intent.

As a result, the clamor for reform has only steadily increased.

Argall almost got an earlier version of his bill through the Senate in November 2015.

The bill would have raised the state’s personal income tax from 3.07 percent to 4.95 percent and the sales tax from 6 percent to 7 percent. The vote finished in a 24-24 tie with Lt. Gov. Mike Stack, a Democrat, casting the deciding no vote. The bill had 19 Republicans and five Democrats in favor with 12 Republicans and 12 Democrats against.

Blake and Sen. John Gordner (R-27) voted no. Sens. John Yudichak (D-14) and Lisa Baker (R-20) voted yes.

Argall is back with basically the same bill. Besides the sales and income tax hikes, the bill would subject a wide variety of goods and services to the sales tax for the first time. That includes taxing all but essential foods (milk, bread, fruit, cheese, eggs and certain cereals), clothing or shoes that cost more than $50, many medical services, cable television, some lawyer bills, day care costs and funeral services.

The bill allows school districts to keep enough property tax in place to pay off loans and bonds, which commit property taxes to payments. That tax goes away as the borrowing gets paid off. About a dozen districts had no debt as of the 2014-15 school year, according to the most recent readily available data. Only Delaware Valley School District was debt-free among Northeast Pennsylvania districts.

Argall acknowledged voters’ approval in November to allowing local governments to exempt 100 percent of an owner-occupied home’s assessed value from property taxes could influence the way the bill turns out. The vote amended the state constitution to allow different treatment of homesteads versus rental, commercial and industrial properties. Eliminating property taxes only for owner-occupied homes would cost about $8.1 billion this year, according to the Independent Fiscal Office.

Blake thinks proponents oversell the idea while ignoring risks. Chief among them: In tough economic times, property taxes remain stable and predictable, but sales and income taxes decline or grow more slowly than necessary to properly fund schools, he said. That’s because people spend less and get fewer raises in downturns. Sudden shifts could leave school districts short of money to pay bills.

“I mean who doesn’t want to eliminate property taxes, right?” Blake said. “But I think it was disingenuous for many of the advocates here who were stirring this pot not to be honest with people of Pennsylvania what the obligations of this public policy suggestion really are.”

The expanded sales tax would hurt low- and middle-income citizens the most, said state House Democratic Leader Frank Dermody (D-33).

“People don’t talk about that and they (tax-elimination advocates) don’t explain that,” Dermody said. “Cradle to grave, we’re going to tax your diapers, we’re going to tax your caskets.”

Without the expanded sales tax base, the bill falls billions of dollars short, Dermody said. The higher, expanded sales tax base would raise almost $5 billion this school year, according to a 2013 Independent Fiscal Office analysis.

As low- and middle-income citizens pay more, more affluent owners of commercial and industrial properties would no longer pay $3 billion a year in property taxes, Blake said.

The higher income tax would also fall hard on small businesses. Most pay the personal income tax of 3.07 percent rather than the higher 9.99 percent corporate tax, Blake said. Landlords would get property tax breaks but probably wouldn’t lower rents, he said.

With the state providing a lot more money, school districts would also cede power and financial control to Harrisburg, Blake said.

He favors rebating property taxes up to 100 percent with a cap of $1,990 and a $500 rebate for renters with household incomes of $50,000 or less. About 3.2 million homeowners and about 800,000 stand to benefit from that.

That would ease the problem and allow the state to keep meeting its state constitutional obligation to adequately fund public education, Blake said.

“I think people need to understand that ... any property ownership carries a certain responsibility,” Blake said. — (AP)

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My husband and I have worked all of our lives and we finally were able to realize our dreams of home ownership, I have a daughter and 2 grandchildren who are autistic. I work hard but the school taxes are impeding us. Our mortgage is only 1087 but after taxes its 1655. This is just crazy. I need this break. I pray every day that this passes before I loose my home.

Guest

You bought a home you can’t afford. Now it’s the state’s problem ?

Guest

Not necessarily true. If someone bought a home 30 years ago for a quarter of todays cost, paid it off, recently retires, runs into unplanned major expenses (sickness). Incidentally their home is now worth a lot more due to inflation, eventually reassessed by the country, property taxes increase to $6k a year on a $250k home (at least in Pittsburgh). Thats $500 a month for a house that you've paid off and should be able to retire in. Property taxes in Arizona for example could be $300 a year for the same home. Something needs to change.
When the taxes are equal to the mortgage payment or more then we're being bullied.

Guest

Property taxes are a farce. Property taxes go directly against freedom of ownership of your property. End property taxes, we already pay state income taxes and state sales taxes. You’re greedy.

Guest

I bought a home with 250 $ tax/ month +mortgage,now is 650 $ /month tax + mortgage (most school tax) ,you trying to be smart ?

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Ignore this troll. I feel your pain. My mortgage is around $450 and my taxes bring my mortgage to a whopping $1200 a month! I am a Senior Citizen, too. Gas keeps getting taxed and going on, electric, gas heat, cable, Netflix, food, clothing, medical everything is going up and we don't get raises when we are on fixed incomes. The only thing we can do is keep voicing our concerns and hope something positive will come out of it.

Guest

Why should property owners foot the bill for schools. I have had a home for 42 years and paid school taxes every year, yet I have no children. I think that I have paid my share. So you are ok with me and my wife being taxed out of our home? This is a very unfair way to support our schools.

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PA is taking away the American dream from so many due to these increasing taxes. Nothing like holding a person down and making it impossible for low to middle class to buy a home. Stroudsburg school district raised taxes to the point I pay over $300 more a month , requiring me to get a second job and spend less time with my children. If that’s “for the children” priorities are obviously skewed! The only way you will own you home is if it can’t be taken away from you. Schools also need to live within a budget, unfortunately that means making hard decisions. If you take all the money the teachers union has, you could probably my solve the tax increase problem.

Lett G.

I wish my taxes were only $300/monthly. In Chester County, I'm paying a &981 mortgage with almost $800 in taxes. I managed to pay ahead and get a shortage to keep my payments under $1700....smh

Guest

Yes....the "teachers unions" are holding all the cards and cash that would relieve you of your tax burden. If you can't afford taxes, maybe you should ask your employer why you are making so little or why you didn't fight for a better pension.
We will STILL need to come up with the same amount of money only this time you will feel it daily at the grocery store, drug store, nursery and funeral parlor just to start!

chris Martinez

NO SCHOOL DISTRICT should have the power to make a family homeless PERIOD !!!! these school districts dont manage the money well at all my district in springford built a new school 10 yrs ago and say they need to build another one ......this is insane they dont care they just raise taxed isnt this why we left england centuries ago ago to save us from being taxed to death ????? this is getting so bad people work their lives away just to own a home only to have it ripped from underneath them over property taxes

Guest

Parents should pay for their children's education. Your child is NO ONES responsibility but your OWN. If you can't afford to send your kid to school don't have one. Those of us who do not have children should not be burdened paying for our neighbors kids. And any additional funding needed for those less fortunate should be provided by the millionaires and billionaires of the US. They like being so Philanthropic... make them put their charity towards education. Stop burdening those who are not utilizing the school systems. While you have a child in school from Kindergarten through Senior Year of High School... YOU should pay for it, as the parent(s). And once your child graduates you too should benefit from the savings of not paying for education for the rest of your life when you are no longer utilizing it. Even changing the manner in collecting the taxes does not solve this. Stop spreading the debt to everyone and collect it from those who actually owe it!!! If I had a doctor bill no one would be chipping in to pay it for me. So why am I flipping the bill for your kid to go to school? Take care of your own.

Guest bob

totally agree, the system we have now is totally butchered.

Guest John

Well said!

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well said!

Guest

What utter nonsense. Why do I have to pay for the roads you drive on? You certainly couldn't afford them on your own... Why do I have to pay to give you police or fire protection? Why do I have to pay to ensure your drinking water is clean or your air is smog free? Because we all collectively contribute to cover the expenses we just as collectively benefit from. And, yes, you benefit from an educated populace.

Guest

You say nonsense, and that we all collectively contribute to cover the expenses, but only property owner cover the cost for public schools. Everyone does not contribute towards the cost of funding public schools.

Guest

Exactly why a more balanced approach should be taken. We all benefit from a better educated population. Do we want or Fire, EMT’s, Police and other officials intelligent or ignorant? Even lower paying jobs require some form of literacy. I understand the argument for parents of school age children paying for their child’s education and I as a home owner definitely do not appreciate the burden being placed solely on us, but I also understand the benefits of living in a country with higher rates of literacy. It is the reason America’s economy continues to grow and can keep the high standards of living we have all become accustomed to. What if homeowners paid a yearly registration fee of $200 per home owned. This fee would be permanently capped, this would allow local school districts some control & flexibility over some monies. The rest of the money they require would come from the raising of the income tax and the sales tax of increased items. They could also amend the laws to include some lottery sales to bolster the school revenue. I’m not against paying my fair share, but older homeowners shouldn’t lose their homes. Young people should be incentivized to stay in PA and build neighborhoods. Business owners should be allowed to grow and hire more people. Homeowners should not have the entire school funding burden placed on them. Just imagine how many homes would be fixed up because no one fears the tax assessor. Property values increasing, and the sale and purchase of a home becoming easier due to school taxes of $200 is easily absorbed into a mortgagte. Renters finally make a commitment to purchase a home, which in the end increases homeownership, which creates the need for more services, which creates more business opportunities, more jobs= more tax revenue= school revenue= homeownership = easier selling= easier buying= increased home value.. you get the picture. If PA wants to grow it has to end the insanity of these out of control school taxes.

Guest

Rent on rental property does go in part to that properties tax bill!

Guest

Rent on rental property does go in part to that properties tax bill!

Guest

Renters pay for schools indirectly. Landlords just pass the taxes to the renter in the form of increased rent

Guest

Rent on rental property does go in part to that properties tax bill!

Guest

Well, can I at least get a refund for the dropouts, and druggies, and criminals that my money paid for?

Guest

YOU RIGHT ! IT IS TIME FOR EVERYONE IN PENNSYLVANIA TO PAY FOR SCHOOLS, NOT ONLY HOME OWNERS , DO HOME OWNERS ONLY PAY FOR THE ROADS YOU DRIVE ON ?

Guest brad

Exactly!!!

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wellsaid

Guest

Another example of how our education system failed you when it came time to learn about how BASIC taxes and pooled public monies work. Unless you were absent grades 4-12 of course.
By your brilliant logic, anyone who does not drive should also not have to pay their fair share for roads and bridges too I guess. Or maybe anyone who does not believe in war should also skirt their patrioric duties. Sorry, not how taxes for the commons work in this country since it's birth......but you're welcome for the tutorial!

Lens

I don’t have any children using the services of the education system. It’s not right.

Guest

Yes, I agree. I’m on disability for a chronic progressive disease and my school taxes here are $4000 and $1200 for state taxes. I’m barely making it because I also pay $400 per month for health insurance. Something needs to change. I don’t have children, so why penalize me with school taxes. People with children SHOULD PAY SCHOOL TAXES!

Guest

I do agree with that. I am told that in nebraska if you have children going to school you must pay school taxes and when your child gets out of school your school taxes stop. This I do agree with. If other states can do this then why cant pennsylvania?

Guest

I totally agree. If you cant afford the child first of all you shouldn't have one second you can put the child up for adoption and use your head next time or get fixed.

Guest

Thank you Senator Argall we appreciate your commitment to saving our homes that are being taken from us even after the mortgage is paid.

Guest

Good luck Senator but I think this state is turning into a list cause. Union money silences the majority. I can't wait to retire and leave.

Guest

Perhaps the better idea would be to cut the school property tax by half. This would certainly help homeowners on fixed incomes.

Guest

Thank you for your commitment to this issue senator much appreciated

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I want to retire ,but scared because of the rising property and school taxes, We live in South west school district, don't have any children in school. It is ashame that at least the lower part of the state pays more taxes . We support the whole state. I am going to have to work past 65 just to try to make ends meet. I drive thru my neighbor hood and see houses that are foreclosure all the time. The biggest reason is the school and property taxes. My son paid 180,00 dollar home and pays 8500.00 a year in total property taxes That is awefull

Guest

Don’t buy a house where property taxes are high. It’s that simple. His fault for not checking. Or just be at peace with it. If you’d like the government to take care of you, there are many countries you can move to.

Rational Guest

There are those who will cheer no school taxes till they later realize the impact of that knee jerk decision to tax "everything" as it's replacement....no thanks.
I have always felt there should be a spreading of this burden to put impact on those who are benefiting the most from public schools. I was a renter once and paid less than $500 a year in school tax. I didn't have kids, but I could have had three and still paid the same. Now as a homeowner I pay thousands and still...no kids. So how does just replacing one unfair tax for many others reflect progress? Can't they spread the burden by having "all" those who "live" in said district "pay" the same fixed amount, and then an adder per child currently in the districts school system? This would lower the costs for everyone and would be a more fair approach and might even get people more involved in the local budgeting process.
Those who are renting with kids are already getting a big helping hand with the new federal tax code changes, so please...hold your outrage of having to finally pay for your decision on having a family. Your line item deductions will more than cover any new school tax.
There should also be a gradual tax reduction based on years of paying to somewhat match with the 12 year school program. This would help the elderly stay in our districts. There are no more important sources of local history than our elders.
Now the schools might argue that "well folks are having less kids now...where are we going to get the adder funds from?" Why would you need "extra" funds with less enrollment? Maybe less schools...less teachers... less buses? But even today with shrinking enrollments in my district there will be a 2.4% school tax increase passed in June...the max of course.
PA = 500 districts = 14.4 Billion in property taxes = 28.8M per district. Can't they imagine a day of balanced school budgets by just sharing the load instead of just having one in the state today...the Delaware Valley District?
Example: In San Francisco 60-70% of residents "rent". No wonder that State is broke and everyone's leaving.

Guest

I dont know why this OLD RAN STATE dosnt get with the program. If they leagalize marijuana they could use the income from that to get rid of school taxes. Look at what Colorado is doing and all the money coming into the state from the legalization of marijuana..

Guest

Agree with legalizing marijuana to help lower taxes on PA

Rational Guest

Remember these tidbits in the bill "they" are trying to shove through...
Current PA "income" tax is 3.07%, but it goes up to nearly 5%, so if you make say 100K in your household you'll be paying nearly 2k in school tax right there...then everything you buy gets 1% added when the 6% sales tax goes to 7%. Then all the items never taxed before like "food", OTC pharmacy, clothes etc., and those work boots you "need" to make the tax money hits you @ 7%.
So do you really think when the state freezes all the school budgets at the current level...these taxes are going to "freeze" too? Not a chance. They will simply have control of everything using your kids school as leverage to get all new increases pushed through easy peazy. They love using the "children" carrot to get things done. It worked for CHIP when they increased the cigar tax 800%.
So if handing over your school to a bureaucracy that couldn't manage a bake sale is in your best interests than by all means get excited about a 100 new taxes that will go up every year, instead of having just one currently that as enrollments drift lower will eventually get smaller too.
Sales taxes never get lowered. Income taxes never get lowered. The current school property tax should in time, and there are alternatives that should be looked at.
Do not allow this bill to go through unchallenged. It's a power grab and that is why the state is campaigning so hard to make it happen. The general fund needs it...we as residents do not. READ MY LIPS... no "new" taxes!
What we want is "one" fair school tax that is based on the "numbers", not just the "owners"!

Guest John

And remember where all the new tax burdens will go: to the lower and middle class. The rich will, of course, no longer bear the burden of a school tax.

Guest brad

I still don’t understand why it’s so much, the property taxes are higher than if you lived by a charter school in California. What are the schools wasting money on? The property taxes are high like corrupt Illinois. I hope they find a way to fix this problem before it’s too late for many.

Guest

Property taxes is outright evil. Your argument is essentially, “It’s okay to punish a group of people so long as the rest of us benefit.”. We’re all here together, so we will all share the burden of supporting schools. Right now, we have the equivalence of only Ford trucks being taxed vs. all other vehicles, despite the roads being shared by all. Everyone lives somewhere, so why aren’t we all taxed? I personally am in the middle of purchasing my first home, so I have a large investment in this. Because I want to create a better life for my family and want improvement in our personal lives, I’m taxed for it? This isn’t about second houses and whatnot. Everyone should have the right to a place to live without being burdened by some monarch-like tax, regardless if they are renting or owning. Renting and owning is simply a personal financial and convenience decision, not one that should dictate how you pay for public schools.

The house we’re looking at has a property tax of $6000 a year, which makes our mortgage of $1300 turn into $1800. That $500 a month would be a HUGE relief on our ability to live without worrying about stretching our budget as far as we can to make ends meet every month. It would give us the ability to fix things in the house as they come instead of hoping a pipe doesn’t burst, or if an appliance fails. In no way would any of the purposed tax increases affect me to the point property tax would.

The point is, it’s wrong to force a group of people to suffer for YOUR benefit. We deserve a place to live like everyone else without being fleeced. Tax the death out of second homes if you’d like, but everyone deserves the right to property for their family if they so seek it.

Guest

No one is looking at the real problem, why are schools spending so much on things that are not education... Our Superintendent make 180k per year to manage a relatively small staff in corporate terms, plus there is a huge district support staff that just supports management not teachers, now there are 500 school districts in PA most failing... WHY are we paying so much for bureaucracy, lets DOWNSIZE the management just like all of corporate america, imagine how much more could be spent on... wait for it EDUCATION if we reduced the managers by 50% and outsourced things like facilities...

Guest

Totally agree...we never downsize the bueracracy

Guest

HEARD !!! I live in NEPA and our school district approved and spent 7 MILLION dollars on astro-turf for the local high schools ... 7 MILLION dollars to put fake grass over GRASS ... Just ONE of the absurd things Monroe County WASTES money on without our consent

Guest

I just put my Pennsylvania home up for sale, I can no longer afford to live here. One third of my total income goes to paying property taxes each year! I plan to move to Alabama, where property taxes on the same value of home are one tenth of what I pay here. I'll be praying for the rest of you!

Guest

Education is too important to be managed by local school boards whose competence is questionable. Education really should be considered a line item of our National Defense budget since an educated public is our strongest defense against a totalitarian government. Without an educated public, we will cede technological superiority to countries that value education and consequently cede our 1st world status. That being said, I don't see the US taking education seriously anytime soon. However, it would be a start if a state government took responsibility to educate it's population equally and hopefully at a high standard. The cost of educating the public should be spread as broadly as possible since all benefit from an educated population; the burden should not be placed almost solely on homeowner's backs as is the current situation in Pa. I strongly dispute that renters pay their share of the education system by paying higher rental prices. A landlord can not raise rental rates at the same speed as the school districts raise millage rates and retain their renters. I sincerely hope that school taxes will finally be eliminated in Pa in 2018 or 2019. There is no way I could afford to retire in Pa in my house if school taxes are not eliminated and funding shifted to income taxes (on all) and increased sales taxes.

Guest

Forcing those whom bought a home to pay school taxes for as long as they have a home is the problem. The school district KNOW they can continue to raise YOUR school property taxes, because you either PAY or lose your home. It seems the ONLY people supporting this are those that RENT or the useless politicians that use it as a voting ploy. If you are tired of it, you need to go to the voting booth and vote these politicians OUT that do not support HB/SB 76.

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I am a senior on a fixed income and I'm being taxed out of my already paid for home. It will be necessary for me to sell my home and move to a state that does not have such high school taxes. I do not have any children have never had any children and do not think I should even be responsible for other people's children. those that have children should be responsible for the school taxes.

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We both work, pay all the taxes out of our checks (leaving us well not a lot) and we don’t use the welfare system or ask anyone for anything. Problem is making a combined total of 39,000 a year we own a home but life paycheck to paycheck like many we have too. Food, electric, cable and now our property taxes go up yet we get .25 cent raises annually. No more cost of living raise either. Just so hard to liive like this. Shouldn’t be this way. BUT the one thing that irks me most is how is it ok that our wealthier friends can pay the property/school taxes with the EARLY DATE and get a discount?? WHAT? That enraged me! Some of us can’t afford to pay this bill at all let alone early so then we get penalized . We get on the payment plan and have to pay more in doing so. We are punished for having and trying to keep our home. American Dream is gone unless you are wealthy. And if you are wealthy hey pay it earlier and enjoy a discount which is something we don’t get. We try so hard to get everything paid. At 60 years old we know we’ll be working forever and local and state taxes are driving as many nails into us as they can..... please just help us help ourselves and stop destroying the American Dream which means if you work you should be able to afford to buy a home and have a descent life.... please please eliminate this huge tax bill!! Many could loose their homes now as well as some deciding not to buy a home due to this burden... ps forget the installment plan for us now that our taxes have almost doubled so we’ll have to use whatever credit we have that’s left to pay it now.... so cruel!

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I have only been in Franklin County for a year but was stunned when the school tax bill came in. We move up here to be closer to our son because of our aging and health issues as we certainly did not expect him to leave his job and up root his family to move south. When you buy a home here in Pa. and you ask about taxes they do not inform you of the high school taxes. Yes, we do not get taxed on Social Security or pension just like Florida and yes same as here we had our homestead but the school tax is a killer for us on a fixed income. It's no wonder people are bailing on living here. Also, if you rent you pay taxes. I never heard of such a thing as that should be up to the owner of the property. So I am posting this so that people that are looking to move here please check into the School Tax prior to making your move, because if you don't you are certainly in for a surprise and not a happy one at that!!!

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crazy i have to pay 5500 a year in taxes for school, then see how much property the school district here at Pocono Mountain, the amount of caretakers that are making great money weeding the great lawns, the security guards that do nothing more than sit in thier cars, the superintendent making 220,000 a year, it just goes on. I went to High School graduated in 1980 and we had 2 principles, 4 guidance counslers, and 4 office workers. Now Everybody has an assistant, they have assistants, and everybody has an office. Crazy

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I know that living in the Coatesville area school district is killing me. Our school taxes are out of hand and our schools are considered bad. A few years back they essentially lost a million dollars. How do you LOOSE a million dollars. Ughhhh.

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Please get this passed soon. It is definitely forcing the elderly out of their homes. It seems the school/property taxes go up every year for no explanation to the residents of the township, If this continues ALL people should have to pay school/property taxes including renters!!!!!!

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What are people supposed to do when they are 70’and retired and are getting 1000 a month from social security and 500 or 600 of that has to go just toward school tax? Independent of other property taxes, household bills, food, car and health insurance? Why is PA school tax so high? With all these households paying thousands and thousands and yet they cry and scream every year they don’t have enough?? Seriously, it just doesn’t add up.

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In the past, people were also able to write off their state and local taxes. Starting this year, this is no longer the case. So yes, this is going to become a bigger and bigger issue now. People are going to be fleeing from the high tax states run by democrats all over the country to places where their local and property taxes aren’t going to bankrupt them. Democrats your day of reckoning has arrived.

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Maybe after PA legalizes pot they can use some of that revenue to alleviate these outrageous school taxes. Especially for seniors on fixed incomes who are just trying to keep their homes.

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What happen to the vote on not to use property tax for school taxes???? This was quite a few years ago that the vote won. We are still waiting!! Not fair to the Pa residents. Senior citizens that have no children and paid for years finally need a break. Also separately, people that rent should pay for their children going to school, like everyone else do.
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